Atheism Exalts Reason, “The Know it all Mentality”

Atheism tends to exalt reason, but it is actually irrational. Atheists tend to put a lot of stock in the emperical method and in logic. One cannot disprove God exists using the emperical method. You might reply: But I can’t disprove a giant purple frog on Mars controls the universe, either. Granted, one can never disprove any given thing exists. The atheistic position denying God’s existence, if based on the emperical method, is absurd. Why do I say that?  In order to prove the assertion No God exists experimentally, one would need to comprehensively know all of reality. Comprehensive knowledge of reality is called omniscience. One would need to be omniscient in order to prove there is no God, but if one were omniscient one would, by definition, already be God! So, based on emperical methodology, the only one capable of disproving the existence of God would be God himself!  But some would say you can indeed assert something does not exist if its existence is logically self contradictory, such as a square triangle.  By definition it cannot exist.  It is illogical for something to be a square and to also be a triangle. Again, granted, but this line of reasoning assumes logic and real meaning exist and are our basis for knowledge –something an atheist has no right to assert! The existence of God is not only logically possible, it is philosophically essential. (We’ll get to that more later below.) One cannot prove logic exists unless one first presupposes a God in whom reason and meaning are transcendentally rooted, otherwise these categories are mere philosphical prejuduces. Atheism is inherently self-contradictory. The evidence for the existence of God is there for all to see, only we refuse to see it.”  King David wrote: The fool says in his heart there is no God. (Psalm 14:1)

written by Fred Klett (former atheist)

 List of the top fifty countries containing the highest percentage of people who identify themselves as atheist, agnostic, or non-believers in God.

Sweden 8,986,000 46 – 85% 4,133,560 – 7,638,100
Vietnam 82,690,000 81% 66,978,900
Denmark 5,413,000 43 – 80% 2,327,590 – 4,330,400
Norway 4,575,000 31 – 72% 1,418,250 – 3,294,000
Japan 127,333,000 64 – 65% 81,493,120 – 82,766,450
Czech Republic 10,246,100 54 – 61% 5,328,940 – 6,250,121
Finland 5,215,000 28 – 60% 1,460,200 – 3,129,000
France 60,424,000 43 – 54% 25,982,320 – 32,628,960
South Korea 48,598,000 30 – 52% 14,579,400 – 25,270,960
Estonia 1,342,000 49% 657,580
Germany 82,425,000 41 – 49% 33,794,250 – 40,388,250
Russia 143,782,000 24 – 48% 34,507,680 – 69,015,360
Hungary 10,032,000 32 – 46% 3,210,240 – 4,614,720
Netherlands 16,318,000 39 – 44% 6,364,020 – 7,179,920
Britain 60,271,000 31 – 44% 18,684,010 – 26,519,240
Belgium 10,348,000 42 – 43% 4,346,160 – 4,449,640
Bulgaria 7,518,000 34 – 40% 2,556,120 – 3,007,200
Slovenia 2,011,000 35 – 38% 703,850 – 764,180
Israel 6,199,000 15 – 37% 929,850 – 2,293,630
Canada 32,508,000 19 – 30% 6,176,520 – 9,752,400
Latvia 2,306,000 20 – 29% 461,200 – 668,740
Slovakia 5,424,000 10 – 28% 542,400 – 1,518,720
Switzerland 7,451,000 17 – 27% 1,266,670 – 2,011,770
Austria 8,175,000 18 – 26% 1,471,500 – 2,125,500
Australia 19,913,000 24 – 25% 4,779,120 – 4,978,250
Taiwan 22,750,000 24% 5,460,000
Spain 40,281,000 15 – 24% 6,042,150 – 9,667,440
Iceland 294,000 16 – 23% 47,040 – 67,620
New Zealand 3,994,000 20 – 22% 798,800 – 878,680
Ukraine 47,732,000 20% 9,546,400
Belarus 10,311,000 17% 1,752,870
Greece 10,648,000 16% 1,703,680
North Korea 22,698,000 15%* 3,404,700
Italy 58,057,000 6 – 15% 3,483,420 – 8,708,550
Armenia 2,991,000 14% 418,740
China 1,298,848,000 8 – 14%* 103,907,840 – 181,838,720
Lithuania 3,608,000 13% 469,040
Singapore 4,354,000 13% 566,020
Uruguay 3,399,000 12% 407,880
Kazakhstan 15,144,000 11 – 12% 1,665,840 – 1,817,280
Mongolia 2,751,000 9% 247,590
Portugal 10,524,000 4 – 9% 420,960 – 947,160
USA 293,028,000 3 – 9% 8,790,840 – 26,822,520
Albania 3,545,000 8% 283,600
Argentina 39,145,000 4 – 8% 1,565,800 – 3,131,600
Kyrgyzstan 5,081,000 7% 355,670
Dominican Republic 8,834,000 7% 618,380
Cuba 11,309,000 7%* 791,630
Croatia 4,497,000 7% 314,790
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18 thoughts on “Atheism Exalts Reason, “The Know it all Mentality”

  1. I don’t think you understand how logic operates. It’s not ‘transcendentally rooted’ in the divine. It’s a process by which you begin with what you can observe, make postulations based on those observations, then set up tests to see if those assumptions are true. It seems to me that scientists are constantly asking questions, while it’s believers who insist they have all the answers.

    I have no interest in proving or dis-proving the existence of God; I simply want to make important decisions based on evidence. I hope that people making decisions for me are doing the same thing. I don’t want my doctor to think I have a demon that needs to be exorcised when I’m ill. I don’t want my fireman to think God chose my house to incinerate. I don’t want my politicians to legislate based on a poor conception of an ancient set of documents.

    The emergence of Christianity didn’t dis-prove any of the prior religions, it only replaced them as a dominant world view. My ancestors painted their bodies blue and danced around trees long after Christ died – I don’t feel like doing that either. For all we know, the first divine being we’ll see after death is Zeus – and he’s likely to be pretty angry that we’ve ignored him for so long.

  2. By your own argument one would need to be god to prove god exists, so why do you believe? Can you show me some evidence? I’ve never seen any and I’m always prepared to look at anything presented in an inbiased, factual manner. The belief in god actually requires a removal of logic, logic requires no god. Rules such as a triangle having 3 sides are arbitrary human limits put on abstract objects, noting to do with god. The logical impossibility is an omniscient, omnipotent, loving god who creates a world with nautral disasters that kill innocent children.

    • As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

      There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

      They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

      Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

      Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

      Their feet are swift to shed blood:

      Destruction and misery are in their ways:

      And the way of peace have they not known:

      There is no fear of God before their eyes.

      Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

      Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

      But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

      Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

      For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

      Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

      Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

      To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

      Romans 3: 10-26

  3. I don’t know why I always feel the need to correct the points you made here; they are elementary errors.

    Firstly, atheism is not necessarily a truth claim that “no God exists”. It can be, but it is not necessarily. Atheism can simply be not accepting the claim that God does exist (this is not identical to accepting the contrary claim).

    Secondly, a claim should be refrained from until good evidence is forthcoming. You don’t believe in the Martian purple frog–despite it not being disproved–and I don’t believe in God. Positive evidence for a positive claim.

    Thirdly, logic does not pre-suppose a God. The argument I think you’re going to get into is called the Transcendental Argument for God (TAG). I am currently dealing with that argument in the comments section of another blog (see here: http://joshuaamoore.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/the-reason-rally-and-the-faith-of-atheists/).

    I look forward to seeing your post on why logic supposes a God…

    • Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2][3] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[3][4][5] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[6][7] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.[7][8]

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

      • “atheism is not necessarily a truth claim that “no God exists”. It can be, but it is not necessarily. Atheism can simply be not accepting the claim that God does exist”.

        We agree on all points. Excellent.

      • LOL, whatever rhetoric you want to use to excuse your unbelief which according to the bible is sin by the way, is still an excuse. Not going to move me because I know God personally….:) This comes only by faith which is a gift and cannot be drumned up. Until you meet him yourself no matter how much evidence is put forth you will never believe. Why? Because the natural mind CANNOT believe for it is connected to the natural realm but the spiritual mind is connected to the spirit realm. That is why Jesus said “YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN TO ENTER GODS KINGDOM. ”

        That which is born of the natural sees the natural but those born of the Spirit can see the spirit realm. I know this all sounds like nonsence to you but that’s the way it is. Until you are plugged in so to speak to the Spirit like an electrical plug is plugged in to an outlet to recieve an electrical current you will be dead to the spirit realm.

        Reality is not just the physical of matter but also of spirit. There are two sides to the spirit realm. Light and darkness. Kind of like two opposing forces,positive and negative. Their are many parallels to the natural and spiritual. I probably sound like a nut to you but millions of people cannot possibly be crazy just because you have one of those purely logical brains with no spirit current….:) prayer would be a good place to start, never know what may happen…:) Kim

      • You believe by faith and you admit it. I am okay with that.

        I take some issue with the fact that you just accept that unbelief is a sin. I get that it is defined that way, but it seems an odd abandonment of your own critical faculties to figure out what should be “sin”.

      • Sin is disobedience to God’s law. No one is able because of the sin nature of man to obey the law in its entirtey so God set Jesus to take the place of sinners. Those who have the Son have life but those without the Son have God’s wrath upon them. As scripture’s say…”How shall we escape if we neglect such great salvation? “

  4. “No one but God can give you faith to believe and that is his decision not mine or any one else’s.” – So he chooses his believers, they don’t choose him. He’s obviously quite racist and seems to have abandoned his original ‘chosen people’ as well as the majority of people who endeavor to increase our understanding of the world and universe through science. Even if he/it did exist, I would worship him/it. Sounds a lot closer to evil than good to me.

    • God is under no obligation to save any one. He can do with his creation as he chooses. Evil is rejection of the Creator.

      ” For being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him who calls, it was said to her, “The elder will serve the younger.” Even as it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

      What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? May it never be! For he said to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who has mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I caused you to be raised up, that I might show in you my power, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” So then, he has mercy on whom he desires, and he hardens whom he desires.” Romans 9:11-23

      You will say then to me, “Why does he still find fault? For who withstands his will?” But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed ask him who formed it, “Why did you make me like this?” Or hasn’t the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel for honor, and another for dishonor? 22What if God, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath made for destruction, 23and that he might make known the riches of his glory on vessels of mercy, which he prepared beforehand for glory,

      • Thanks for that, I now know that there’s no point in worshipping god as he’ll decide for himself who is to be saved. Not much point in him telling us how to live was there if he’ll make up his mind in an arbitrary manner?

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